Thursday, March 24, 2016

Medjugorje region. War Posters. Radko Mladic, Radovan Karadzic

Update May 2011 with arrest of Ratko Mladic
 Ratko Mladic and Radovan Karadzic
Update 2016:  Radovan Karadzic found guilty by a UN tribunal of acts of genocide.  See article  The photograph there looks so much like the posters here that we had tentatively identified as Ratko Mladic.

Can someone affirm either way? 

Background to post issues:  Copyright protects fair use of thumbnails, in order to promote communication by identifying a topic or subject, but in such reduced form so that the original will still be sought. Our use of thumbnails to try to identify our poster of a war "criminal" should be acceptable use, but even thumbnails are being blocked.  So, you are on your own, but unfairly. The blocking hurts the originator because who will bother to follow the link? Reconsider and allow the limited use, originators.
Ratko Mladic. Is he the subject in these Bosnian posters?
Bosnian Serb Former General Ratko Mladic has been arrested, after 15 years in hiding. Radovan Karadzic is already on trial at The Hague. In 2008, we uploaded our photos of posters in support of Balkan Wars military figures, subjets then unidentified. We believed them to be Ratko Mladic or Radovan Karadzic. Which is which? We offer three sections here:
I.  Resemblance.  Fair use thumbnail photos of both Ratko Mladic and Radovan Karadzic. We see similar features. Imagine both with caps. The thumbnails of both in the same picture may be from the same event.
II.  Posters. These were on village walls, at the Bosnia-Croatia border, on the way to Medjugorje, back road town, in support; and further thumbnails lead to our identification
III. Context. What were the Balkan Wars, what are the main accusations as to genocide.
I.  Suggesting Resemblance:  Fair use thumbnails for identification
                                                                                                                                             Our Our fair use thumbnail from July 23, 2008, is being blocked from 
Here, too, our fair use thumbnail is being blocked from
Cables from WikiLeaks suggest assistance from Russia in Mladic's concealment. This photo also appears at
II.  Posters: in support of military figures.
With the number of photos of Ratko Mladic now available, we believe that the posters we saw are both of Ratko Mladic.  Earlier we had been unsure, but tilted toward Mladic identification because of shapes of noses, chins.  The men do bear a resemblance in photographs.
Our Poster 1.
Ratko Mladic. Identification tentative, Bosnia-Croatia border.
We believe this to be Ratko Mladic because the subject looks like:  there we go again, fair use even of a thumbnail is being blocked.
Find the big one at

Our Poster 2. Ratko Mladic.

Ratko Mladic.  Identification understood, Bosnia-Croatia border. Wording: "dom spremni i za domovinu cuvat cemo antu gotovinu"

This is a badly reworked (by someone else, not me)  photo-shopped poster, as that large saluting hand could not possibly go with that head. 

 Our identification for this second poster is influenced particularly by this photograph, again blocked here although it is a fair use thumbnail from  Chin, nose, eyes. 
For a gallery of fine photographs, 24 photos, see Ratko Mladic in Pictures, Guardian, UK at

If you want to add my photos, will you pay me enough to finance my retirement?  This blocking of thumbnails is destructive to the common good.  Still, contact me if you want to use mine.  My retirement will not be expensive.

III.  Context .
Genocides. Travel in the Balkans carries with it reminders of wars. We found numerous posters in support of alleged war criminals then in hiding. We travel back roads often, and found these on our way to Medugorje from Croatia. Whether they were on the Croatian side, which is also largely Serb, or the Bosnian side, also having had a large Serb population.  Mladic is a Bosnian Serb.
Local populations:  From a few conversations at a pub or store, no generalizations are feasible. We did find, however, an overall positive view of both men, in areas of Serbs. 
Serb leader Radovan Karadzic was arrested some time ago, and is on trial at The Hague, see; and Ratko Mladic has just been arrested. 
The crimes alleged, for example, include: Srebenica, where unarmed Bosnian Muslim men were lined up and shot, with only a few of 5,000 surviving, and additional horrors, read the New York Times International Report July 25, 2008 at A6.  See

The most well known/ notorious of the mass murders relates to that town of Srebenica, Bosnia, in 1995. With tensions and travel warnings. and simple issues of road conditions, and on our own, we did not go there. If you look at a map, Srebenica is far east, nearly on the Serbian border. We stayed closer to the Adriatic coast, and west.

Accusations also focus on killings at Sarajevo. That also is in central Bosnia, and off-limits on our insurance as we recall. Also, no Kosovo.

Population view:  Discussions in pubs where we tended to eat each evening (good food, less expensive) led us to believe that this sentiment was broadly approved: that many people believed "war criminals" from that time should not be prosecuted. The majority believed, those who were speaking English that we heard, that war is war, and the men were acting in the best interests of their side at the time, doing no worse than others in their position in other wars and even these wars. Just reporting.

We repeat the letters in an effort to get an online translation:

"dom spremni i za domovinu cuvat cemo antu gotovinu"

We see no Bosnian or Croatian to English in the online translation sites.

Thursday, May 24, 2012

Bosnia Bifurcated: Reckoning. Current Events

Twenty years ago, war engulfed Bosnia, Serbia, Croatia.  War crimes are being prosecuted still. A partition in effect has evolved into Bosnia's current Republika Srpska and the Muslim-Croat Federation. Can there be re-integration.

Read the Financial Times article, Bad Blood, by Bodley Head.  The topic book is The War is Dead, Log Live the War: Bosnia, the Reckoning, by Ed Vulliamy, see

Instead of presenting a chronology of the last 20 years, the book focuses on specific communities, and which among them sought confrontation. Survival, remembrance, moving on, or relive, or deny.

Sunday, March 18, 2012

Pyramids near Sarajevo? No

Visocica Hill, Ancient Pyramid
True or False?  False.  Probably. Definitely? Discredited.
Issues:  damage to legitimate archeological sites, in pursuit of glitz
The photos are persuasive, but the research proves appearances, that this site contains real Pyramids, to be deceiving.  See
Sarajevo was off limits to us, insurance excluded travel there, but we just noticed a possible new attraction in the area.  Pyramids, some 20 miles northwest, at Visoko. See Archeology Magazine July-August 2006, described at  Article summary:  There may be five pyramids: Pyramid of the Sun, the biggest; Pyramid of the Moon; Pyramid of the Dragon; Pyramid of the Earth, and one yet unnamed. It was anticipated that 6 months would be needed to certify the mounds as pyramids, says Semir Osmanagic, leading the dig.  There are several sites promoting the idea.
There is a network of tunnels beneath, perhaps serving also as medieval mines, and Osmanagic estimates the age of the site of Pyramids as, gasp, 12,500 years old,perhaps built by Illyrians.  He has earlier claimed sites such as this, as being alien-generated.  So:  looking for an update that is not just a site maintained by Mr. Osmanagic.

The crystalinks site looks best.  Sad to see a dream of a digger dashed, but perhaps Bosnia could protect its ancient sites more carefully, before these ideas may spoil other finds.

Friday, March 16, 2012

Bosnian Queen Katarina 15th C.

Katarina, Queen of Bosnia 15th Century
Buried where she died, faithful, in Rome.  Shunted.
How to restore honor, position, merit.
Do our religions disregard outlying peoples, despite loyalty, faithful lives. And, the plight of Queens in a male-dogma'ed church.  More disregard, buttressed by tradition, not text. See Katarina at
The three-legged stool of inspiration, text and tradition, see, falls down when it comes to women, is that so.  See the downward, purposeful evolution of the ladies for cultural power purposes at!/2012/02/salvation-or-marketing-religions.html

Is it only in Denmark, same era, where the anti-woman tradition is so clearly rejected?  Compare the confidence, the attitude, there, as opposed to the meekery fostered elsewhere. 
What did Katarina do, or not do, to be dissed. Is that a fair question? She was noble by birth, a converted Catholic (was she Orthodox Christian before, or what?) and married by duly officiated Catholic rite. She had two children, both weak. She had status of Queen Mother until the Ottomans prevailed in her lands, she was captured, yet escaped to Rome. Her children remained in captivity. She sought their return thereafter.
Why is she so shunted.  Read the site.  Fine human being, responsible, did all she could.  On the other hand, if all worthy persons were honored after their time, where could new "stars" be acclaimed?
The 15th Century.  This was a time of intrigues among Bosnian and Croatian nobles, seeking advantage against the encroaching Ottomans, and their repeated threats and incursions. Boundaries among groups were still fluid -- Croatia and Bosnia, not as they are today.  And the Roman Catholic Church exerted influence in politics as well as religion.  In that setting, meet Katarina, Queen of Bosnia, and nearly forgotten, even in Rome. See
What was the border between Croatia and Bosnia at the time, or were they simply ethnic-language areas within a larger whole of Balkan area peoples?
The dissing of Katarina. She is buried at Aracoeli Church in Rome, on the Capitoline Hill, a church Santa Maria Aracoeli, and is traditionally the municipality of Rome's official church. See  Why no mention of Queen Katarina? The Katarina site says her grave was "built over" when the altar was moved, or else she herself was moved, and an inconspicuous marker remains. 

Thursday, November 17, 2011

Bosnia Herzegovina: Suddenly Cyrillic. Cyril, Methodius, Kliment.

The Cyrillic alphabet in use in the Herzegovina part of Bosnia Herzegovina poses special problems for figuring out road signs.  The map may show there is a bypass around a particular town, but which of the signs points to it. End up following the sun.

Cyrillic:  What is the origin of the alphabet, the word Cyrillic.  The alphabet is used to write some 50 languages, including Russian, and many in Central Asia, Eastern Europe.  The name honors Saint Cyril, a missionary of the Eastern Orthodox branch of Christianity, from Byzantium; often associated with Saint Methodius, his brother, the two traveling together into the Slavic countries.  But apparently the alphabet could have been developed not by Cyril, but by a Saint Kliment of Ohred.  

However, this Fidanoski site states that Kliment, or Clement, was a follower of Cyril and Methodius, see their biography at and that Cyril and Methodius originated the alphabet jointly, and conducted joint translations from the Latin into Old Slavonic. See See it in written form at the Omniglot site

All three lived in the 9th Century -- Clement, or Kliment of Ohred; first Macedonian Bishop.  Founded Macedonian Orthodoxy; and Cyril (a/k/a Constantine, but not the same of course as the emperor) and Methodius. See Fidanoski site. Macedonia at the time was under Bulgarian influence. The first Christian ruler there was Boris (is that Boris Goudonov? See and hear at  Intent -- record the Old Slavonic Language

1708 -- Peter the Great reforms the alphabet, removing four letters